New Testament Christian Church...just another witness:: Old FACTNet is gone...

Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version)

But everyone knows the KJV is the anti-NTCC Version.

Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version - the mandatory harmony and reconciliation Bible)...Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Proverbs 31:10-28 (King James Version)

Proverbs 31:10-28 (King James Version - the pro-working-woman Bible)...Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life. She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands. She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar. She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens. She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard. She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms. She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night. She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff. She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy. She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet. She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple. Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land. She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant. Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come. She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness. She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness. Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

1/30/11

Old FACTNet is gone...

Hallelujah!

Hello all,

Good news...On 29 January 2011, the witness that was "old FACTNet" was deleted from the world wide web. I already archived all the NTCC stuff, so maybe someday it will make a reappearance (sounds like good content for a full-blown website). The "new FACTNet" is still with us, but is consistently inactive.

But, here is the link to a fully functional (all links work) internet archive of "old FACTNet."

Also, I want to thank Sister George Jordan for telling us (and very many others) about FACTNet in 2004 (she’s very diligent about keeping people informed). She is probably directly responsible for many people leaving our Cult, since many claim they left because of the influence of what they read online.

NTCC is winning,

Gregory

14 comments:

Al Falfa said...: Gregory said,

"Good news...NTCC is winning"

Al says,

I love satire just as much as the next dog; but that comment made my fur stand on end!

Even a dog knows: Just because you bury your bones in the back yard, that doesn't mean their gone forever!

People lying and trying to erase NTCC's shameful past doesn't change the FACT that NTCC IS A CULT THAT DESTROYS!!!

The NTCC might think they have won some sort of battle in this war. But NTCC WILL NEVER WIN THIS WAR BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE! NTCC DOES NOT SERVE JESUS. NTCC SERVES itself and satan, the defeated foes of CHRIST THE KING!

I'll keep barking that message for as long as my tail is wagging!

Al; January 31, 2011 6:13 AM
nicole b said...: Thanks for putting the quotes beneath the pictures.

I have a question for you. What do you remember being taught and preached to concerning people suffering from mental illness and getting a doctor's help or taking certain medicines concerning this?; February 01, 2011 9:31 PM
Documentary on ntcc? said...: Share your true story and see...; February 02, 2011 9:14 AM
Jeff said...: That is a shame that it's gone. It just motivates me all the more to never pull down my blog (not that I intended to anyway).

Jeff; February 02, 2011 7:51 PM
DS or GS said...: nichole b,

As you should know, NTCC preaches/relies on divine healing leavened with the Doctor’s help...or as they like to sometimes put it, "If you have a headache, pray for healing, and then take an aspirin."

There are even instances where God has healed someone, and NTCC (Pastor Davis) had the person go to the doctor anyway.

There are many among the NTCC leadership families who are sick, even after much prayer and Doctors.

These facts show NTCC's belief in divine healing is lip-service only…as is there be-ye-warmed-and-filled (or, as they oft put it…”We’ll be praying Brother”) Christian love.

Gregory; February 07, 2011 4:28 PM
Anonymous said...: Hi Bro. and Sis Shunk.Trying to comment but not sure how to do it. I often wondered what happened to many of the NTCC members I knew years back. Now that I've found this blog, I can see that alot of them are doing well. I praise God for that. I never agreed with the mind control issues of NTCC. Thank you for starting this blog. Also, please pray for me, as I have thyroid cancer. Thanks in advance. My name is David Dyal.; February 07, 2011 8:20 PM
Vic Johanson said...: Good old FACTnet! That was the beginning of the end for NTCC. I've got it archived too. The Whirlwind's rants definitely need to be preserved for posterity.; February 24, 2011 7:49 PM
Michael said...: I cannot tell you how happy I was to find this website. Mrs. Shunk I knew you when you were Mrs. Blumenthal and I was a student at bible school. I was excommunicated for homosexuality or whatever their new policy was concerning that. A policy I was not aware of while being in the organization. Interesting that RWD states that he has never seen a homosexual saved. Anyway, I have some questions for you and am seeking a dear friend I had way back when. Any help you could provide would be helpful and appreciated. My email address is Michaelnursingstudent@yahoo.com. Thanks! Michael Padgett; June 21, 2011 11:23 AM
Anonymous said...: Hello Michael,

I remember you! I will be glad to help you. Many are finding old friends and reuniting once again. It's a shame we were told we had to choose the Org over friendships when people left the church. Glad you found me. = )

Deborah; June 24, 2011 1:23 AM
Unknown said...: Hello is any one there my name is tim jensen I was at fart lewis in early 80 just looking for some old freinds. U can email. Timenater777@gmail.com; September 24, 2012 5:38 PM
DS or GS said...: Hi Tim,

Who specifically are you looking for? Maybe I can help you.

Gregory; September 24, 2012 7:26 PM
Anonymous said...: Hey Tim, I remember you quite well! You were @ Tillicum church when it was a small group there. How are you? It's been nice to hear from old friends from way back in the 70's and 80's.

Deborah; September 24, 2012 7:42 PM
Anonymous said...: I sent you an email

Deborah; September 24, 2012 7:44 PM
Unknown said...: Whatever became of Richard C Blumenthal" after him being divorced from his wife Debbie?; October 19, 2021 9:28 PM

Senior Pastor Reverend Davis (DD, PhD, Apo$tle & RIP) &; Sis. Davis II "...money and numbers."

"I can't remember the last time I sinned." • "All I do is by the Holy Ghost." • "I have never missed God." • "All that matters is money and numbers." • "You don't have to pray, 'cause I'm gonna pray for you. You don't have to believe, 'cause I'm gonna believe for you. Do you believe I am a man of God and that God will do what I ask? Then reach out your hands toward me, and I am going to pray FOR you." • "...just ask me and I'll tell ya." • "If you don't like it, there's the door." • "If you need more money, have more church services" • "Don't expect me to get all excited when you come and tell me that your wife's pregnant." • "I've never seen a homosexual or Puerto Rican get saved." • "The ministry is a business." • "Don't bring homeless people to church, they don't have any money." • "...if you have a problem with me, you have a problem with God." • "If you do what I do, you can have what I have." • "Buy Savings Bonds..." • "The hardest thing you will ever do is make it in the rapture of the church." • "All Christians pay tithe and give offerings." • "If you have a problem with one of my pastors, you have a problem with me, and if you have a problem with me, you have a problem with God." • "I may forgive; but I never forget!" • "Don't ask for my advice unless you intend to follow it." • "The only two organizations I know of besides ours that have church government right are the Catholics and the Mormons." • "No one has ever left this organization under the direction of the Holy Ghost"

Reverend Olson (D.D., COB, President) "Brethren, the Organization is Pastor Davis."

"Brethren, the Organization is Pastor Davis." • "It seemed pleasing to God." • "Sometimes certain things are necessary in the work of the Lord." • "If Pastor [Davis] said the sky is green, the sky is green." • "If you have belt loops, wear a belt. You do not go without a belt on." • "Dry between your toes." • "Don't wear loafers with a suit" • "Don't put crackers in soup." • "Never eat french-fries with your fingers." • "Obey the Man of God." • "Dictators are out of place in the pulpit." • "A real leader must care for everyone." • "Wrinkled clothes indicate a wrinkled soul and spirit." • "Don't spit in public." • "Mistakes and accidents are not to be magnified."

Senior Pastor Rev. Kekel (B.Th., CEO, & Dean) "...I consider anyone who has left NTCC an enemy."

"P.S...please don't call me Mike" • "I have three jobs...CEO of the Organization, President of the Bible Seminary and Senior Pastor of the local church in Graham, WA." • Senior Pastor Kekel is also the recipient of a 16 year old bride (he was only 26, a photographer, and a musician) from the founder, and a 39 acre land gift (a $310,800 value) of NTCC owned real estate. NTCC is a 501(c)(3). • "I have heard so many express, not that the ministry of God’s word was their delight, but that they “didn’t have time for their kids” because of the ministry. Whatever happened to loving the work of God? Enjoying what you do? The JOY of believing? To say that something as insignificant as a policy regarding sports, or the necessary duties of being even a “mildly dedicated” Christian, (not to mention being a “full-time” minister) hindered “time with the family” or even “damaged” the fragile psyche, is very immature." • "There has been a long standing “no-children” policy for ministers who Pastor Servicemen’s homes in NTCC." • "...the DVD thing was never a policy to begin with..." • "One of the biggest enemies of aging Ministers is their fear that they won’t be taken care of in their old age. This fear causes them to resort to secular education and employment, abandoning the call of God; but the key is taking care of their old age, in their youth. Then, the wives go on jobs too, which is against the bible, and they find that the same spending habits that got them into the mess, rob them of happiness, even with a double income." • "...The brethren are saying that they don’t know who is who, who is an enemy and who isn't, so I think I can help to identify them..." • "...I consider anyone who has left NTCC an enemy."

About Gregory (Deborah's husband)

My name is Gregory. I was with NTCC for over seventeen years. Having spent two years living in a Servicemen's Home as a church member, and eleven of these as a Pastor. I Pastored 4 NTCC churches. During this time I also pioneered 3 Churches (while pastoring my own assigned church), pioneered a Seminary in Korea (while pastoring my own assigned church), and was one of their Ordained Ministers. I have preached at NTCC's National Training Center, and had articles published in the "Trumpet". Both under my own name, and with others taking credit for my work. I have orchestrated three entire Church remodels. Once doing the work myself, and twice hiring the work out. I have also installed the carpet in two other NTCC churches. I have stayed in the “Lodge” a few years consecutively during conferences, and was the regional overseer for Korea for almost four years. I lost my first wife (and only child) as a direct result of NTCC's burdensome policies (and my loyalty to those policies over every other consideration). My Ordained Minister's License was not renewed for 2009 for reasons still unclear. I didn't send in my Ordained Minister's License fee for 2010, since my license wasn't renewed for 2009. I sang in the College choir when a student, and as a minister. I have been married to Deborah for over twenty-three years. There is much else I have accomplished (and sacrificed) while involved with NTCC, but these are some highlights.

Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version)

Proverbs 6:16-19 (King James Version)

Proverbs 31:10-28 (King James Version)

1/30/11

Old FACTNet is gone...

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