Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version)

But everyone knows the KJV is the anti-NTCC Version.

Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version - the mandatory harmony and reconciliation Bible)
...Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Proverbs 6:16-19 (King James Version)

Proverbs 6:16-19 (King James Version - the straight-talk Bible)...These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 31:10-28 (King James Version)

Proverbs 31:10-28 (King James Version - the pro-working-woman Bible)...Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life. She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands. She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar. She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens. She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard. She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms. She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night. She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff. She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy. She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet. She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple. Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land. She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant. Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come. She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness. She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness. Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

10/11/10

A dog show, some french kissin', a girl child (Tanya), and some lesbians (tomboys); with the man who never misses God (and makes this all necessary)...

Eeeek!

Anonymous wrote (in a comment over on Don and Ange's Blog)..."you missed part of that article about the dog show; where the lesbians were kissing the dogs, french style? Don might like to comment on that kind of thing, homosexuality that is. And what is the age difference between Greg and Debbie?"

Here is the link to the referenced article (on Don and Ange's Blog).

Here is the link to Pastor Kekel's full original (and since deleted) article.

Anonymous,

NTCC's view is God quantifies sin (one sin is worse than another)? Is this a new change? I never heard (or preached) this from March 1991 until December 2008. But, I realize a lot can change in two years.

Lesbianism and bestiality are worse than child molestation in the eyes of the Holy Spirit? To the point where child molestation is acceptable?

I understand Pastor Kekel (or anyone else) becoming uncomfortable (Christian or not) when exposed to unnatural affection; even more so if their child is present. Yet, don't you think the Holy Spirit, who convicts against dog shows (and any ancillary goings on), would also convict this same person against his romantic pursuit of a minor less than 15 years of age, when he was in his mid-twenties? How about convicting the female child’s father (who has never missed God, and does all by the Holy Spirit, and can’t remember the last time he sinned) regarding same?

NOTE: These recurring public proclamations (“I’ve never missed God”, and “All I do is by the Holy Ghost”, and “I can’t remember the last time I sinned”) by Pastor Davis are one reason all NTCC’s ‘policies’ are looked upon (and promoted, and preached, and enforced) by the faithful as the unwavering will of God, and not merely ‘suggested’ courses of action; at least until Pastor Kekel stumbled out of the closet and onto the scene (on 3 March 2009 @ 7:20 pm, and found here) with his now famous ‘private’ diametric interpretation concerning God’s will. Pastor Kekel now tells us he prays about things (football, secular college, hobbies, worldly music, et al) that Pastor Davis has also prayed about, and comes up with different answers, which also please the Holy Spirit?

I know the perception is NTCC (and its leadership) is always (frequently) right, but I refuse to believe the Holy Spirit stopped doing his job just because of Pastor and Sister Kekel’s first encounter (30 years ago by this time); that now corrupting the morals of a minor is acceptable. All because of Pastor and Sister Kekel’s pre-marital relationship.

You are not alone Anonymous; most people think Deborah is as much as 15 years older than I am because of her gray hair. But, our age difference is as much as three years, depending on the time of year (since our birthdays are in different months).

A key point may be we did not get married when Deborah was 19 and I was 16 (conversely Tanya was 16 and Pastor Kekel was 26 when they wed); we were both in our thirties, and neither of us felt any Holy Spirit conviction against it; probably because the leadership approved our courting, and subsequent union. I asked permission (as required by policy) from Pastor Davis to court (on the wall only) and then marry (in Pastor Davis’ living room only, no church wedding was allowed for us) Deborah. Thankfully he gave his permission, and hearty approval both times. Thank-you Pastor Davis; it’s been over 18 wonderful years.

Gregory

3 comments:

Don and Ange said...

Wow, what a whirlwind of confusion that has taken place here. First we have kekels new cleaned up version of the dog show fiasco:

"I was uncomfortable and troubled in my spirit by the atmosphere".

Then we have to go back to previous files deleted in Holy Spirit power to get more details:

When I saw the Tomboys kissing their dogs, I said “Lord, what’s a preacher doing here?” I promptly departed.

Then we got anonymous posting:

"you missed part of that article about the dog show; where the lesbians were kissing the dogs, french style?"

You people over there in Graham can't even get your story straight. I don't even want to think of what the next x-rated version of this story is going to be.

I wonder how long it's going to take for people in your ranks to see you for what you really are. You are spending so much time in the blogoshpere trying to right your wrongs and you just keep fouling it up more each time you comment. What could possibly be so disconcerting to you about the people who are no longer part of your cult, getting together to try to make sense out of what they needlessly went through for years of their lives?

That's okay, for we are in this for the long haul and we are going to let people know about your indecent practices and your lavish lifestyles, because even though you're members are too busy to see the hypocrisy, the number of X-ers is increasing every day. That's right; the damaged and hurt lives that you have left in your wake on your way to reaching your financial pinnacle, is much larger then the ones that you've brainwashed and you can't extinguish all of our voices for ever.

Proverbs 19:22 "The desire of a man [is] his kindness: and a poor man [is] better than a liar."

Jeff said...

I'm glad you made a copy of Kekel's football explanation. The fact is most of the brainwashed NTCC people explain away all the changes just as Kekel does. I talked to one a few days ago and I know. The pastor that I talked to has a wife who goes to a local coed gym dressed in tight booty hugger spandex pants. This pastor and his wife will explain anything.

They are truly brainwashed. So the point I'm making is that folks who are interested in the truth will receive it. Folks who aren't interested in the truth won't receive it if it reaches out and slaps them right in the face. Having said that I know our efforts are reaping rewards one at a time. I know of at least three people who left the NTCC recently. They all spent time some of these blogs. I know because they called me.

Take care Greg and Deb.

Jeff

DS or GS said...

One of my points is...Pastor Kekel is convicted from the "goings on" at a dog show, but he had no problems pursuing a relationship with a 14 year old when he was 24. And the child's father had no problem with it either.

Gregory