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Here is the link to the referenced article (on Don and Ange's Blog).
Here is the link to Pastor Kekel's full original (and since deleted) article.
Here is the link to Pastor Kekel's full original (and since deleted) article.
Anonymous,
NTCC's view is God quantifies sin (one sin is worse than another)? Is this a new change? I never heard (or preached) this from March 1991 until December 2008. But, I realize a lot can change in two years.
Lesbianism and bestiality are worse than child molestation in the eyes of the Holy Spirit? To the point where child molestation is acceptable?
I understand Pastor Kekel (or anyone else) becoming uncomfortable (Christian or not) when exposed to unnatural affection; even more so if their child is present. Yet, don't you think the Holy Spirit, who convicts against dog shows (and any ancillary goings on), would also convict this same person against his romantic pursuit of a minor less than 15 years of age, when he was in his mid-twenties? How about convicting the female child’s father (who has never missed God, and does all by the Holy Spirit, and can’t remember the last time he sinned) regarding same?
NOTE: These recurring public proclamations (“I’ve never missed God”, and “All I do is by the Holy Ghost”, and “I can’t remember the last time I sinned”) by Pastor Davis are one reason all NTCC’s ‘policies’ are looked upon (and promoted, and preached, and enforced) by the faithful as the unwavering will of God, and not merely ‘suggested’ courses of action; at least until Pastor Kekel stumbled out of the closet and onto the scene (on 3 March 2009 @ 7:20 pm, and found here) with his now famous ‘private’ diametric interpretation concerning God’s will. Pastor Kekel now tells us he prays about things (football, secular college, hobbies, worldly music, et al) that Pastor Davis has also prayed about, and comes up with different answers, which also please the Holy Spirit?
I know the perception is NTCC (and its leadership) is always (frequently) right, but I refuse to believe the Holy Spirit stopped doing his job just because of Pastor and Sister Kekel’s first encounter (30 years ago by this time); that now corrupting the morals of a minor is acceptable. All because of Pastor and Sister Kekel’s pre-marital relationship.
You are not alone Anonymous; most people think Deborah is as much as 15 years older than I am because of her gray hair. But, our age difference is as much as three years, depending on the time of year (since our birthdays are in different months).
A key point may be we did not get married when Deborah was 19 and I was 16 (conversely Tanya was 16 and Pastor Kekel was 26 when they wed); we were both in our thirties, and neither of us felt any Holy Spirit conviction against it; probably because the leadership approved our courting, and subsequent union. I asked permission (as required by policy) from Pastor Davis to court (on the wall only) and then marry (in Pastor Davis’ living room only, no church wedding was allowed for us) Deborah. Thankfully he gave his permission, and hearty approval both times. Thank-you Pastor Davis; it’s been over 18 wonderful years.
Gregory
Wow, what a whirlwind of confusion that has taken place here. First we have kekels new cleaned up version of the dog show fiasco:
ReplyDelete"I was uncomfortable and troubled in my spirit by the atmosphere".
Then we have to go back to previous files deleted in Holy Spirit power to get more details:
When I saw the Tomboys kissing their dogs, I said “Lord, what’s a preacher doing here?” I promptly departed.
Then we got anonymous posting:
"you missed part of that article about the dog show; where the lesbians were kissing the dogs, french style?"
You people over there in Graham can't even get your story straight. I don't even want to think of what the next x-rated version of this story is going to be.
I wonder how long it's going to take for people in your ranks to see you for what you really are. You are spending so much time in the blogoshpere trying to right your wrongs and you just keep fouling it up more each time you comment. What could possibly be so disconcerting to you about the people who are no longer part of your cult, getting together to try to make sense out of what they needlessly went through for years of their lives?
That's okay, for we are in this for the long haul and we are going to let people know about your indecent practices and your lavish lifestyles, because even though you're members are too busy to see the hypocrisy, the number of X-ers is increasing every day. That's right; the damaged and hurt lives that you have left in your wake on your way to reaching your financial pinnacle, is much larger then the ones that you've brainwashed and you can't extinguish all of our voices for ever.
Proverbs 19:22 "The desire of a man [is] his kindness: and a poor man [is] better than a liar."
I'm glad you made a copy of Kekel's football explanation. The fact is most of the brainwashed NTCC people explain away all the changes just as Kekel does. I talked to one a few days ago and I know. The pastor that I talked to has a wife who goes to a local coed gym dressed in tight booty hugger spandex pants. This pastor and his wife will explain anything.
ReplyDeleteThey are truly brainwashed. So the point I'm making is that folks who are interested in the truth will receive it. Folks who aren't interested in the truth won't receive it if it reaches out and slaps them right in the face. Having said that I know our efforts are reaping rewards one at a time. I know of at least three people who left the NTCC recently. They all spent time some of these blogs. I know because they called me.
Take care Greg and Deb.
Jeff
One of my points is...Pastor Kekel is convicted from the "goings on" at a dog show, but he had no problems pursuing a relationship with a 14 year old when he was 24. And the child's father had no problem with it either.
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