Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version)

Matthew 18:15-17 (the King James SEPARATES wheat from chaff)...Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Proverbs 6:16-19 (King James Version)

Proverbs 6:16-19 (the King James talks STRAIGHT-TALK)...These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 31:10-28 (King James Version)

Proverbs 31:10-28 (the King James woman WORKS a job)...Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life. She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands. She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar. She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens. She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard. She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms. She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night. She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff. She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy. She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet. She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple. Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land. She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant. Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come. She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness. She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness. Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

11/21/2012

Part 1: Michael Craig wrote what? Out loud? (originally posted 2/6/2012)...

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[This post is raw Michael, see part 2 for my spineless spinless insight]
 

"February 6, 2012

What happened to Fellowship Meetings?


Those monthly 'get-togethers' were always so special! I remember one many years ago at Rev. Espinoza's Tacoma church with a bunch of us out on the front porch, just singing and having church; a pleasant memory. The meetings weren't fixed at any certain interval, but often occurred monthly and usually on a Saturday. You knew that there would be singing, shouting, praise and blessings, and surely that fellow that needed that breakthrough would find it there!
 
Over the years however, Fellowship Meetings became a monthly requirement in every region of the US where we had churches. The original intention was to give members of those churches to have a chance to see that there were other churches like theirs and that having church together was very exciting; they were to have that same 'old time' feeling. The 'more the merrier' so to speak. In addition, you could enjoy hearing a message preached by someone different, and  afterward laugh, talk, eat!

Why were they stopped?
Well, they weren't, not completely. "Ahh, whatever happened to those wonderful 'Fellowship Meetings?'" some watery-eyed person would ask. This question seems to come up often, but maybe people have forgotten the things they 'didn't like' about them. There are still many meetings held, but only those supervised by an Overseer, and they aren't monthly requirements anymore. The primary reason for this, was to ease the financial burden on the churches and pastors, and stop the monthly disruption of their schedules. 

Contrary to the rumor, it wasn't because the ministers "weren't trusted to conduct the services". There were no guest speakers, only the same pastors preaching to each other's congregations, and each other, every month.

Many times ministers are peers or Dorm buddies, so in some ways, the meetings became more than just a financial burden; the burden of resentment.  FMs should never be a burden. But for some people, everything is a burden.

Count the Cost
Going to a fellowship meeting could sometimes be a budget buster! Consider for example...
*Expenses for travel including gas, meals, and in some cases a hotel room
*Soul-winning programs reduced 25% (1 week out of each month)
*Saturday services cancelled, impacting the church evangelistically and financially

But wait, there's more!

A few preachers strove over who was leading service, whose wife would sing, who would preach, etc. And then there's the preacher who took a cheap shot at another preacher on the front row, saying 'men who part their hair on the right, "are homosexuals" (?) Such behavior is un-ministerial, childish, carnal. Unfortunately you can't give people brains. There was also a degree of resentment on the part of some pastors for having to deal with some of this stuff, every month. Let those who lament the changes, remember.

The offerings taken up in those meetings went to the Home Missions program; a reserve fund for expenses related to helping fledgling churches in the USA. The money wasn't just given out to 'spenders', but used to bail out lots of Pastors in a bind, trying to get their church started. Those offerings didn't come near covering the expenditures, and the Org. carried the rest. Home Missions is no more.

Under the new setup, offerings go to expenses of the Fellowship Meetings to defray expenses of the meeting that fall on the host church, and whatever else is needed for the meeting, like refreshments, etc.

Some additional benefits of the new setup are things such as: 
  • Ingathering fellowship and food the night before
  • Overseers supervising and preaching some of the meetings
  • Pastors and Overseers getting face time
  • Team building and growth
  • Church members receiving spiritual benefits (Holy Ghost, etc)
  • Meetings rare, making them more desirable and exciting
  • More time to promote members attending
  • All us preachers need to be preached to also!
My hope is that in the future, Fell. Mtgs. will be promoted more effectively and in advance. It used to be a great excitement for us because someone would get the Holy Ghost, or get saved, and the excitement was always high.

In Graham, we never have them because the nearby Pastors and some members come every Thursday anyway. Plus, the Graham congregation could never fit in the smaller buildings, and we have a lot of Conference-like services as it is. Either way, God is good! And now you know...the true, 'rest of the story'.
 
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