Senior Pastor Kekel went to a French kissin' dog show w/RWD's Daughter, RWD's Grandson, Lesbians & Bluegrass Music (originally posted 10/11/2010) #parenting...

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Anonymous wrote (in a comment over on Don and Ange's Blog)..."you missed part of that article about the dog show; where the lesbians were kissing the dogs, french style? Don might like to comment on that kind of thing, homosexuality that is. And what is the age difference between Greg and Debbie?"

Here's the link to the referenced article (on Don and Ange's Blog) with Exer comments bonus.

Here's the link to Pastor Kekel's full original (and since deleted) article. But, since it's deleted in holy spirit power, here it is in red (sorry about the walls of text, this's how he types):

Many years ago when our son was small, we took him to Frontier Park in Graham, WA. We noticed a dog show going on nearby, so we wandered over to watch. After a few minutes of witnessing the interaction of the people with their pets, it became clear to me that it was time to leave. I was uncomfortable and troubled in my spirit by the atmosphere. Another time a few years ago we went to an annual event in Tacoma called Wintergrass; basically one hour acoustic music lessons/workshops taught by professionals. Iʼve played guitar since 1966 and Iʼm always trying to improve, so it was an absolute treat for me to listen to these pros play and teach. Later in the evening when things started jumping, and started to get crazy, we looked at each other and said something like, “letʼs get out of here!” These are just 2 examples of many kinds of situations that we as Christians may find ourselves in and no one can hit the brakes but us! Here’s another scenario; Restaurants that serve alcohol. If you refuse to eat at such places, youʼre left with McDonalds and the BK; but the environment is quite different on Tuesday afternoon than it is on Friday or Saturday evening when the crowd is rockinʼ and prowlinʼ. So then, is it the PRESENCE of alcohol, or the activities INVOLVING it that is wrong? For that matter, alcohol is present at the supermarket, but walking near it should not be a temptation for a Christian. If there is no lust (desire) for it in your heart, there should be no temptation (James 1:14-15)- “But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.” Even if you WERE tempted by it, you still have a brake pedal beneath your foot. Use it! If a certain place put you in a position to be tempted, then you should avoid even going there. I Thess. 5 (22) “ Abstain from all appearance of evil.” APPEARANCE (from the Gk. Eidos, sight, meaning 'when it appears') (Originally posted 4/9/2009 @ 12:17 pm on the CEO Blog)

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For example, when some people hear the words “bluegrass festival” they think “rednecks sitting on the lawn chewing grass and drinking beer, cussin’-and-a-belching, listening to ungodly music twanging devilish songs through their noses.” The Sheraton hotel for example, hosts an annual event called Wintergrass; daytime sessions are held in numerous 40 X 50 rooms with small platforms, and guys teaching one hour instrument lessons during the day. Alcohol free, nudity and profanity free, they are merely acoustic music lessons (how to hold a pick, recommendations of instrument name brands, so forth,) without the ungodly, writhing music found in pop-gospel, some Brooklyn Tab, etc. If the atmosphere changes for the worse, then its time to go! I went to one, learned some great tips and late in the day, when the mood began to change, we left. SO, if anything, we did the RIGHT thing. “I was there when it happened, and I think I oughta‘ know.” I once wandered from the park in Graham to another area where they were holding a dog show. When I saw the Tomboys kissing their dogs, I said “Lord, what’s a preacher doing here?” I promptly departed. There was no written law saying “thou shalt not go to dog shows.” It was an on-the-spot decision based upon the conflict between the Holy Ghost in me, and the spirit of bestiality. This is why one of the gifts of the Spirit is discernment (I Cor. 12). (Originally posted 2/5/2010 @ 6:45 pm on the CEO Blog)

Anonymous,

NTCC's view is God quantifies sin (one sin is worse than another)? Is this a new change? I never heard (or preached) this from March 1991 until December 2008. But, I realize a lot can change in two years.

Lesbianism and bestiality are worse than child molestation in the eyes of the Holy Spirit? To the point where child molestation is acceptable? One of my points is...Pastor Kekel is convicted from the "goings on" at a dog show, but he had no problems pursuing a relationship with a 14 year old when he was 24. And the child's father had no problem with it either.

I understand Pastor Kekel (or anyone else) becoming uncomfortable (Christian or not) when exposed to unnatural affection; even more so if their child is present. Yet, don't you think the Holy Spirit, who convicts against dog shows (and any ancillary goings on), would also convict this same person against his romantic pursuit of a minor less than 15 years of age, when he was in his mid-twenties? How about convicting the female child’s father (who has never missed God, and does all by the Holy Spirit, and can’t remember the last time he sinned) regarding same?

NOTE: These recurring public proclamations (“I’ve never missed God”, and “All I do is by the Holy Ghost”, and “I can’t remember the last time I sinned”) by Pastor Davis are one reason all NTCC’s ‘policies’ are looked upon (and promoted, and preached, and enforced) by the faithful as the unwavering will of God, and not merely ‘suggested’ courses of action; at least until Pastor Kekel stumbled out of the closet and onto the scene (on 3 March 2009 @ 7:20 pm, and found here) with his now famous ‘private’ diametric interpretation concerning God’s will. Pastor Kekel now tells us he prays about things (football, secular college, hobbies, worldly music, et al) that Pastor Davis has also prayed about, and comes up with different answers, which also please the Holy Spirit?

I know the perception is NTCC (and its leadership) is always (frequently) right, but I refuse to believe the Holy Spirit stopped doing his job just because of Pastor and Sister Kekel’s first encounter (30 years ago by this time); that now corrupting the morals of a minor is acceptable. All because of Pastor and Sister Kekel’s pre-marital relationship.

You are not alone Anonymous; most people think Deborah is as much as 15 years older than I am because of her gray hair. But, our age difference is as much as three years, depending on the time of year (since our birthdays are in different months).

A key point may be we did not get married when Deborah was 19 and I was 16 (conversely Tanya was 16 and Pastor Kekel was 26 when they wed, but were an item since she was 14 to his 24 & spicy); we were both in our thirties, and neither of us felt any Holy Spirit conviction against it; probably because the leadership approved our courting, and subsequent union. I asked permission (as required by policy) from Pastor Davis to court (on the wall only) and then marry (in Pastor Davis’ living room only, no church wedding was allowed for us) Deborah. Thankfully he gave his permission, and hearty approval both times. Thank-you Pastor Davis; it’s been over 18 wonderful years.

Gregory