Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version)

But everyone knows the KJV is the anti-NTCC Version.

Matthew 18:15-17 (King James Version - the mandatory harmony and reconciliation Bible)
...Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Proverbs 6:16-19 (King James Version)

Proverbs 6:16-19 (King James Version - the straight-talk Bible)...These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 31:10-28 (King James Version)

Proverbs 31:10-28 (King James Version - the pro-working-woman Bible)...Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil. She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life. She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands. She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar. She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens. She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard. She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms. She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night. She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff. She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy. She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet. She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple. Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land. She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant. Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come. She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness. She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness. Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

1/30/11

Old FACTNet is gone...

Hallelujah!

Hello all,

Good news...On 29 January 2011, the witness that was "old FACTNet" was deleted from the world wide web. I already archived all the NTCC stuff, so maybe someday it will make a reappearance (sounds like good content for a full-blown website). The "new FACTNet" is still with us, but is consistently inactive.

But, here is the link to a fully functional (all links work) internet archive of "old FACTNet."

Also, I want to thank Sister George Jordan for telling us (and very many others) about FACTNet in 2004 (she’s very diligent about keeping people informed). She is probably directly responsible for many people leaving our Cult, since many claim they left because of the influence of what they read online.

NTCC is winning,

Gregory

14 comments:

Al Falfa said...

Gregory said,

"Good news...NTCC is winning"

Al says,

I love satire just as much as the next dog; but that comment made my fur stand on end!

Even a dog knows: Just because you bury your bones in the back yard, that doesn't mean their gone forever!

People lying and trying to erase NTCC's shameful past doesn't change the FACT that NTCC IS A CULT THAT DESTROYS!!!

The NTCC might think they have won some sort of battle in this war. But NTCC WILL NEVER WIN THIS WAR BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE! NTCC DOES NOT SERVE JESUS. NTCC SERVES itself and satan, the defeated foes of CHRIST THE KING!

I'll keep barking that message for as long as my tail is wagging!

Al

nicole b said...

Thanks for putting the quotes beneath the pictures.

I have a question for you. What do you remember being taught and preached to concerning people suffering from mental illness and getting a doctor's help or taking certain medicines concerning this?

Documentary on ntcc? said...

Share your true story and see...

Jeff said...

That is a shame that it's gone. It just motivates me all the more to never pull down my blog (not that I intended to anyway).

Jeff

DS or GS said...

nichole b,

As you should know, NTCC preaches/relies on divine healing leavened with the Doctor’s help...or as they like to sometimes put it, "If you have a headache, pray for healing, and then take an aspirin."

There are even instances where God has healed someone, and NTCC (Pastor Davis) had the person go to the doctor anyway.

There are many among the NTCC leadership families who are sick, even after much prayer and Doctors.

These facts show NTCC's belief in divine healing is lip-service only…as is there be-ye-warmed-and-filled (or, as they oft put it…”We’ll be praying Brother”) Christian love.

Gregory

Anonymous said...

Hi Bro. and Sis Shunk.Trying to comment but not sure how to do it. I often wondered what happened to many of the NTCC members I knew years back. Now that I've found this blog, I can see that alot of them are doing well. I praise God for that. I never agreed with the mind control issues of NTCC. Thank you for starting this blog. Also, please pray for me, as I have thyroid cancer. Thanks in advance. My name is David Dyal.

Vic Johanson said...

Good old FACTnet! That was the beginning of the end for NTCC. I've got it archived too. The Whirlwind's rants definitely need to be preserved for posterity.

Michael said...

I cannot tell you how happy I was to find this website. Mrs. Shunk I knew you when you were Mrs. Blumenthal and I was a student at bible school. I was excommunicated for homosexuality or whatever their new policy was concerning that. A policy I was not aware of while being in the organization. Interesting that RWD states that he has never seen a homosexual saved. Anyway, I have some questions for you and am seeking a dear friend I had way back when. Any help you could provide would be helpful and appreciated. My email address is Michaelnursingstudent@yahoo.com. Thanks! Michael Padgett

Anonymous said...

Hello Michael,

I remember you! I will be glad to help you. Many are finding old friends and reuniting once again. It's a shame we were told we had to choose the Org over friendships when people left the church. Glad you found me. = )

Deborah

Unknown said...

Hello is any one there my name is tim jensen I was at fart lewis in early 80 just looking for some old freinds. U can email. Timenater777@gmail.com

DS or GS said...

Hi Tim,

Who specifically are you looking for? Maybe I can help you.

Gregory

Anonymous said...

Hey Tim, I remember you quite well! You were @ Tillicum church when it was a small group there. How are you? It's been nice to hear from old friends from way back in the 70's and 80's.

Deborah

Anonymous said...

I sent you an email

Deborah

Unknown said...

Whatever became of Richard C Blumenthal" after him being divorced from his wife Debbie?